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I want a MacBook Air for University in September (UK), the M1 seems to outperform the M2 in SSD speed hugely, Logic Pro speed and many other fields, it is also more tried and tested compared to the M2 that may have some problems found down the line due to it being so new. The M2 has a prettier new design and better resolution and obviously has the M2 chip (still not too sure what it does.) ,the MagSafe charging and overall the M2 will probably be more future proof, right? The configuration I believe is best for me at the minute is the M1 with 16gb unified memory with 512 SSD, with Logic Pro X included this takes me to around £1,573, the M2 with same configuration and the 10 core takes me to around £1,923, now I don't mind paying more if the M2 will last longer and if the M2 really makes up for the M1 being faster. I can also configure the M2 to have 24gb unified memory (M1 only goes to 16gb) would this be worth it? What would be the best option for me as a music producer who uses Logic Pro X?
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either one should suit you well, and both are similarly future-proofed. 16/512 is fine. down the line, you can always archive older projects on an external (if you need to). the M2 has 2 viable ports (the M1 needs one of those for power), a bigger screen, better camera. at 512gb, the SSD will be fine (the 256gb SSD has the slower speed). it's really whether you need 2 ports, and, as much, prefer the aesthetic of the new one. LP10.7.4 • os13b • 3.2GHz i7 imac • one plugin short of perfection upstatebrooklyn Link to commentShare on other sites
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Are all M1 compatible third party plugins are automatically M2 compatible?
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they're both silicon chips, and technically, 'M1-ready' really means 'silicon-ready'... so, yes.
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Maybe some exceptions exists. Just found this one:
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'not supported' does not mean 'doesn't work'. NI is probably testing things out on the new M2 macs now, and wants to be 100% sure all is well.. which is a good practice. if i'm wrong, i will eat my hat (important note: i do not have a hat)... LP10.7.4 • os13b • 3.2GHz i7 imac • one plugin short of perfection upstatebrooklyn Link to commentShare on other sites
Eat your shorts? 2020 M1 Mini (16gb/1tb), macOS 11.6.8, Logic 10.6.3; RME FF802, Novation 61SL Mk II. Martins and Fenders and Guilds, oh my! Link to commentShare on other sites
👍 About your hat, I can send you one of mine!
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ah, but... no need... since i'm not wrong... 🙃 LP10.7.4 • os13b • 3.2GHz i7 imac • one plugin short of perfection upstatebrooklyn Link to commentShare on other sites
What the ’king says. if you have the budget for the 512 GB SSD, the new one is the one to get.
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What is the reason why the 256 is slower than the 512? « On purpose » marketing limitation to sell more 512 or the bigger SSD the faster?
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Couple musings: Single 256GB chip vs. two of them on the 512 GB model — supply-chain-wise, it’s a lot easier to stock more of one kind and use it as needed than to stock multiple different sizes. Might also be that 256 GB chips are easier and cheaper to come by as chip manufacturers focus on streamlined production in the face of their own supply-chain issues. Also, the target market for the base model really won’t care much about the slower SSD. It’s slower by comparison, but still plenty fast.
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Interesting. Found this also.
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From what Apple says, the M2 is 1.4x faster than the M1. I don't want to be seen as a fanboi…. Edited July 18 by Glenn Lancaster
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so, effectively 1.5 GByte/sec sustained read and write speeds, vs. 2 GByte/sec on the M1 ones? And it's not an issue on the 512 machines. As far as I'm concerned, the two usable ports (plus MagSafe, vs. 1 usable port on the M1 model remaining after the power cable) and availability of a 24GB RAM option seal the deal.
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According to my readings, it’s not that the 256 SSD is slower than the 512, but the 512 model uses two NAND chips instead of of one for the 256 model. More on the NAND chip here. So now the question is: why not put two NAND chips in the 256 model? The chip slot is there but is empty, on the motherboard. Marketing strategy? I think yes but in any case, I use Logic not Final Cut and don’t do video editing so a ram/storage ratio of 16/256 or even 8/256 would be just fine given the use of a few third party plugins and libraries and an external drive to archive my projects. Edited July 18 by stratquebec
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why would that be a 'marketing strategy'?? there are undoubtedly things going on behind the scenes about this. and most people will not notice the difference. but if i were getting an M2 for logic, i would definitely go 16/512 (or 1tb)... for all the logical reasons... LP10.7.4 • os13b • 3.2GHz i7 imac • one plugin short of perfection upstatebrooklyn Link to commentShare on other sites
Again:
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If it were "marketing strategy", there would be mention in the marketing. Link to commentShare on other sites
Maybe I'm wrong, so to be verified, but all MBA have just one NAND chip, the difference
As we, audio creator users, don't realy care about video and GPU (we can't use this so far), RAM and storage are the key. Much of this you can buy the better it will be. IMO.
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Here
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Agree.
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Indeed.
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You used to have a hat on your head in your thumbnail.
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I have the M1 Air and it is plenty powerful for Logic. 1 extra port on the M2 Air won’t help musicians anyway. (Usually) And yes if you go for the 512 SSD in the M2 Air it will outperform the M1 Air in every way.
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"Marketing strategy" requires that the models you're selling be publicly differentiated. Gimping one and not telling anybody just results in bad press. Which indicates that they didn't want it to be this way. Which is why I concluded that it's probably to do with procuring enough chips at a a price that will actually let them manufacture enough of what has been their best-selling Mac for a decade now.
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The 256 GB M2 outperforms the M1 in every way that isn't directly dependent upon disk access speed. I'm currently still on my 2016 15" MBP, but I've a borrowed M1 Air here for testing, and I can say that only having one single port after plugging in power *kills* this machine for virtually any of the usage scenarios in my world, even given the Thunderbolt Dock I use in the studio. Having one port extra would make it barely tolerable. Obviously, your mileage may vary. Given that the M2 can be bought with 24 GB RAM, buying an M2 with 24 GB and at least 512 GB is kind of a no-brainer, assuming funds are available.
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